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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/146-Inverter-Interference.html" rel="alternate" title="Inverter Interference" />
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            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2012-01-30T10:13:11Z</published>
        <updated>2012-01-30T10:43:29Z</updated>
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        <title type="html">Inverter Interference</title>
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                <a href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/143-Rear-Inverter.html">Previously</a>, I reported that my <a href="http://carrott.org/emini/Siemens_Simovert_Short">Simovert</a> motor controller was happy in the rear of the car with the motor in the front of the car. It turns out this is not the case. While going up and down the driveway did not uncover any problems, going up and down the road has. The inverter shuts down with a range of errors:

<ul>
<li>GateDriveUnit</li>
<li>LCA Err Latch</li>
<li>Overcurrent</li>
<li>VC_Over_Voltage</li>
</ul>

<p>I am hoping that this is caused by a combination of poor motor phase cable routing and poor motor-inverter grounding. It turns out that the Siemens supplied motor cables have a shield which is grounded in the cable glands, effectively joining and extending the casing of the motor and the inverter to envelope the motor cables. Such a shield will do a lot to control noise radiated by the motor cables. My motor cables had none of this and worse the motor was not well grounded -- I'm told that non-trivial current can flow between the motor and inverter through the ground due to "induction effects". Regardless of how real this is, properly bonding the inverter ground to the motor ground seems reasonable.</p>

<p>I am solving this problem with a 50mm<sup>2</sup> 3 phase neutral screen cable and appropriate glands. The very stiff underground rated cable I have isn't really appropriate and in hindsight, I should have found a supplier of the right cable, but that story is for my next post.</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/145-33.4Ah.html" rel="alternate" title="33.4Ah" />
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        <published>2012-01-20T09:08:08Z</published>
        <updated>2012-01-20T09:52:34Z</updated>
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        <title type="html">33.4Ah</title>
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                <a href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/39-In-with-the-new.html">In 2008 I bought a battery</a>. At the time, I knew that I was buying a product with a shelf and cycle life (it wears out even if you aren't using it). I didn't expect the battery to sit around for as long as it has, but here we are 3.5 years later. I did a capacity test of the 36 cells installed in the car and found a usable capacity of 33.5Ah:

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The nameplate rating is 40Ah which is substantially more. There are several possible causes of this discrepancy:

<ul>
<li>Calendar Life</li>
<li>Cycle Life</li>
<li>High current abuse</li>
<li>High temperature abuse</li>
<li>Differing test methodology</li>
<li>Low capacity when delivered</li>
</ul>

Calendar life and differing test methodology will certainly have an effect. I am charging to 3.55V at 1A which is substantially lower than thunder sky's recommendation. My pack is moderately closely top balanced and at the end of discharge, the highest cell was just below 3.1V while the lowest cell was at about 2.8V at 10A discharge. This suggests the cells have varying capacity or are not properly balanced.

I also tested 10 cells which have not been cycled or abused with high current or high temperature. The pack in the car has had perhaps 10 cycles, a lot of it discharging at 3C for 5 or 10 minutes at a time. I limited my maximum current to 200A or 5C and kept currents above 120A to short 5 or 10 second bursts. This is not too far from Thunder Sky's specs but does cause significant battery heating. In the summer I have measured over 40C at the battery terminals. The 10 cell pack that sat on the bench has not been subjected to high current or high temperature, probably never getting higher than 25C. This pack achieved 34.3Ah and showed less spread in capacity, with the hightest cell at 3.0V while the lowest was at 2.85V:

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That these two packs show very similar capacity suggests the high temperature and high current and cycling had little effect on the battery in the car.

Cell voltages were measured with the EVD5 BMS, discharge current and Ah counter performed by my EVision and recorded from it's CAN bus by the BMS data logger. The car's battery was discharged with two domestic 240V heaters and a kettle (which nearly boiled dry). The small 10 cell battery was discharged with a steel wire on a wood form in a large bucket of water.

The 10 cell battery shows a larger spread of voltages under load because i did nothing to prepare the cell terminals before putting making the connections, the terminal connection resistance was all over the place.  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/144-Driving-electric-cars-the-length-of-New-Zealand.html" rel="alternate" title="Driving electric cars the length of New Zealand" />
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            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-11-22T10:13:54Z</published>
        <updated>2011-11-22T10:13:54Z</updated>
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                <p>On Thursday, Mike Duke &amp; his Waikato University team's electric car <a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10767287">will</a> <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/6010074/Ground-breaking-electric-car-faces-big-test">join</a> <a href="http://www.hochschule-bochum.de/en/solarcar.html">Bochum University's solar car</a> on a trip from Auckland to Bluff.</p>

<p>They're starting at the domain in the morning, but it's not exactly clear when they are leaving. I'll be there to see them off, if I get wind of the departure time I'll update this post.</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/143-Rear-Inverter.html" rel="alternate" title="Rear Inverter" />
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            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-10-05T11:31:02Z</published>
        <updated>2011-10-05T12:08:49Z</updated>
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                <p>I seem to have successfully moved my inverter to the rear of the car. This will allow me to put a much larger number of cells in the front of the car and improve the weight distribution (I'm currently rear heavy). I found connectors to extend the motor's <a href="http://carrott.org/emini/Siemens_1LH5118">encoder cable</a> and Ed made one up using some special cable he had left over from a job. I replaced the terminal cover on the inverter with a mounting plate for the new <a href="http://carrott.org/emini/Contactors">Gigavac GX14 contactors</a> (replacing the large Schaltbau 162 units that wouldn't really fit anywhere), precharge circuit and the EVision shunt. This has a number of drawbacks, 

<ul>
<li>quite a lot of effort is required to inspect the terminals under the cover</li>
<li>the positive battery cable connection is partially obscured below the boot opening and is close to the body, working on it is a little scary</li>
<li>a rear end crash could cause major problems</li>
<li>I haven't worked out how to form a cover</li>
</ul>

I may yet move this contactors plate above the inverter or to the right of it.</p>

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<p>Pictured is my current test implementation, there are a number of things that need fixing,
<ul>
<li>there are some very thin copper bus bars that need to replaced with thicker bars</li>
<li>the jumpers between the contactors and the inverter are much too thin</li>
<li>the fuse should be much closer to the battery</li>
<li>one of the phase cables is completely unsuitable (about 10mm<super>2</super> total from all three conductors of a household electric oven supply cable (including the oven's on-off switch!)</li>
<li>the low voltage wires need some tidying up</li>
<li>putting everything on top of an insulator and standing some insulation between the various components might be a good idea</li>
<li>I need to make a cover</li>
</ul>
This worked well for going up and down the driveway, well enough to make me feel confident the inverter will live in the rear of the car without being effected by noise escaping from the phase cables.</p>

<p>I did have one mishap while testing. I know you have to keep the loop area small in the phase cables (this is a clever way of saying "keep the phase cables close together"!) and Ed repeated this several times while I was fabricating, but when it came time to actually put it together, well, I forgot. The inverter was most unhappy to have one phase cable go over, one go under and one go around the side (the latter two going out the boot aperture). It refused to run the motor smoothly with no load and then it blew the 30A test fuse! I re-directed the cables to all go over the inverter and through the hole in the front of the boot and everything was smooth and happy. My testing so far is limited by the thin wires in both the battery and motor circuits but I think (and hope) I put enough current through the phase cables to prove it will work. The encoder cable runs down the side of the car while the phase cables run down the middle. Shortly additional battery cables will also run down the middle, hopefully this won't introduce problems.</p>  
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    <entry>
        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/142-EV-Builders-Expo-2011.html" rel="alternate" title="EV Builders Expo 2011" />
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            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-05-03T09:41:17Z</published>
        <updated>2011-05-05T06:11:45Z</updated>
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<p>This Sunday 8th May is the <a href="http://www.evbuilders.com/expotimetable.htm">EV Builders Expo 2011</a> at <a href="http://tapac.org.nz/">TAPAC</a>, 12 - 6 pm. I'll be there (possibly even with my car, I'm working through mounting the inverter in the boot). This should be a good show, my friend Phil explaining how he will go racing in his his electric Saker sports car, F40 Motorsport designed my adapter plate so it will be good to catch up with them, and the Formula E electric go karting guys are good value too.</p>

<p>Theo, the organiser is making an EV documentary which I'm keen to see (not least to find out how our interview went) and he's building an electric Toyota Sera. This is a fund raising event and there is a $20 cost which goes towards finishing the Sera.</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/141-Electric-Truck-on-Trade-Me.html" rel="alternate" title="Electric Truck on Trade Me" />
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            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-04-12T11:22:51Z</published>
        <updated>2011-04-12T11:22:51Z</updated>
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                There is an <a href="http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=365865170">electric truck for sale on trademe</a> at the moment. It appears to be an industrial 3 phase motor with a 336V lead acid battery. 20km range and 45km/h top speed. The vendor isn't supplying too many other details, but it looks to be a bargain at the reserve price. If it was closer to home I'd go have a look, but Whakatane is a bit far.  
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    <entry>
        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/140-Feedback-on-the-Draft-New-Zealand-EV-Certification-Rules-Update.html" rel="alternate" title="Feedback on the Draft New Zealand EV Certification Rules Update" />
        <author>
            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-03-31T08:33:13Z</published>
        <updated>2011-03-31T08:43:32Z</updated>
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                Last time I talked about the call for feedback on the <a href="http://lvvta.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=docs&action=display&thread=135">LVV Standard 75‐00(00) Electric and Hybrid Vehicles Draft #5</a>. You can read my feedback below, unfortunately it doesn't make a lot of sense <a href="http://www.lvvta.org.nz/consultation_docs/Electric_and_Hybrid_Vehicles_Standard_Discussion_Document_Feb_2011.pdf">without the questions</a> so you might want to have them too.

<ul><li> Q1 Yes.
</li><li> Q3 Yes, a plug such as an anderson disconnect should be allowed in place of a switch and such disconnects should be allowed in a battery compartment when non-venting batteries are used.
</li><li> Q5 Yes, Over current devices should be allowed within the battery compartment(s) Why would they be forbidden within the battery compartment? 2.2(1) (c) allows flame proof switches and relays within a battery compartment, fuses should not emit flames if they are of good quality and used within their ratings. 2.2(5) NOTE (d) recommends fuses near the electrical middle of the battery, but 2.2(5) (b) forbids fuses within the battery compartment, making this recommendation harder to follow in some cases.
</li><li> Q9 A manual ground fault detection system should be mandatory, with an automatic system preferred. I have not had time to find a suitable automatic system so would hesitate to mandate an automatic system.
</li><li> Q10 I agree that a simple single potentiometer design is not safe enough. This is a problem as some existing and in-progress conversions likely only use a single potentiometer throttle. I believe a single potentiometer with broken wire detection and a "pedal up" switch inhibiting the traction system is sufficient, with a dual potentiometer preferred. Would a single hall effect sensor be sufficient? My own vehicle has a single potentiometer with broken wire detection, which I am uncomfortable about. Is this sufficient? I will likely add a pedal up inhibitor, but the details of doing this are not trivial due to the design of my control electronics.
</li><li> Q12 No.
</li><li> Q13 Yes, with an explanation that a proper pre-charge circuit will protect the main contactors
</li><li> Q14 No, I think it sufficient to require cables be marked with the voltage ratings by the manufacturer or documentation provided to require this.
</li><li> Q15 Yes, but not to the same level as the FIA. The FIA's "insulation resistance to ground" test is equivalent to the ground fault detection requirement in 2.4(1)(f). 2.4(1) NOTE 3 suggests that a ground fault is permissible so long as it is "safe". The FIA's 250k or 500k Ohm requirement is not possible with a brushed motor or flooded lead acid batteries. A maximum ground fault current should be allowed, so higher voltage systems must maintain a larger resistance to the body. For example a 150V system with a 5k Ohm ground fault will have a maximum ground fault current of 30mA, while a 300V system with the same ground fault will have a maximum ground fault current of 60mA. I am unsure what is achievable in a flooded lead acid battery vehicle with a brushed DC motor without super-human maintenance. Note well that testing the insulation resistance should not be done with a multimeter set to the resistance scale -- a low resistance ground fault will likely destroy the meter.
</li><li> Q16 Yes. Live parts should be covered by strong materials.
</li><li> Q17 Yes, but 5 seconds is too fast and will cause the discharge resistor to run hot while the vehicle is in use. 1 Minute would be safe. Siemens placed a warning to wait 1 minute before servicing on my controller.
</li><li> Q18 No. This requirement has several parts. Most obviously inappropriate is the requirement that the battery cell manufacturer attest to the safety of the battery. Most lithium battery packs are assembled by the owner, so the manufacturer is unlikely to be available for comment on the battery pack. Note the preceding wording requires the cell manufacturer manufacture the cells, but does not comment on assembling the battery pack. A requirement that the cell manufacturer assemble the battery, or that the cell manufacturer attest to the safety of a customer assembled battery would prevent most or all electric conversions using lithium batteries. Requiring the battery management system monitor the temperature of the battery is a good thing, but it's not clear how many of the commercially available battery management systems do this. Requiring batteries that are prone to thermal runaway to retain the manufacturer's monitoring and safety system is a good idea but doesn't say anything about such cells that are supplied without any monitoring and safety system. The Battery Management System issue is highly contentious at the moment. It is clear that a bad Battery Management System is worse than no battery management system for Lithium Iron Phosphate based batteries. Mandating that there be a battery management system may or may not cause more problems than it solves with this chemistry.
</li><li> Q19 No. This is already covered in 2.4(1) (a). I don't believe any additional instrumentation is required to warn of danger during maintenance since the battery box already has a high voltage warning on it, and turning the car off does not make the battery safe.
</li><li> Q20 Yes, you already do in 2.2(1) (b).
</li></ul>
<p>In addition to answers to the numbered questions, I have the following comments:
</p>
<ul><li> The Note in 2.2(2) suggests typical operating temperatures of -10 to 40 degrees C. This is incorrect. Most electric motors operate happily with internal temperatures well over 100 degrees C.
</li><li> 2.4(1) (c) requests a "handbrake on" indication to the driver. Why is this required? For cars that did not have this indicator as original equipment, this is a fairly complex requirement. Is the presence of a handbrake lever next to the driver in the "handbrake on" position sufficient to satisfy this requirement?
</li><li> The last sentence in 2.4(1) NOTE 4 should read "This should be done between the body and several electrical positions within the battery, for example at the most negative battery, the most positive battery somewhere in the middle of the battery. If the body is non-conductive, then ground fault detection testing should conducted between the battery and all metal structural members near the battery." We want to detect a ground between any potential within the battery and the body (which, if it's all-metal, is always at the same potential). My wording around non-conductive body issues is somewhat clumsy, sorry.

</li><li> Section 5 "Ground fault detector" definition is wrong. We are not looking for an "imbalance in current between the energised conductor and the return neutral conductor since:
<ol><li> there is no such thing as a neutral conductor in an electric vehicle
</li><li> if current flows in the ground fault, we already have a potential fire
</li></ol>
What we are looking for is a connection between the battery and the body of the vehicle. No current flows through the first ground fault. I would word this section as "means a device that detects a connection between the battery and the body of the vehicle. Such a connection will allow a current to flow through the body of a person who is simultaneously touches the body of the vehicle and part of the battery during maintenance. A second connection between the body and different part of the battery will allow current to flow through the body, potentially causing a fire or damaging the battery."
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/139-New-Zealand-EV-Certification-Rules-Update.html" rel="alternate" title="New Zealand EV Certification Rules Update" />
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            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-03-23T09:33:14Z</published>
        <updated>2011-03-23T09:33:14Z</updated>
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                <p>In New Zealand, modified vehicles need to be signed off or "certified" by an engineer. In the 1990s an effort was made to create rules governing the certification of Electric Vehicles but it was never completed and the rules are now quite out of date. The <a href="http://lvvta.org.nz/">Low Volume Vehicle Technical Association</a> have been updating these rules over the last year or so, addressing a number of shortcomings with the old draft. They are now <a href="http://lvvta.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=docs&action=display&thread=135">publicly requesting feedback</a>.</p>

<p> I've already had a hand in the new draft document and I'll be posting my feedback here (and to the LVVTA) in the next few days. If you are building an electric vehicle or thinking of doing so, you should read the draft and submit feedback by the end of the month (8 days!).</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/138-Front-Battery-Rack-Template-Takes-Shape.html" rel="alternate" title="Front Battery Rack Template Takes Shape" />
        <author>
            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-03-21T10:59:52Z</published>
        <updated>2011-03-21T10:59:52Z</updated>
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        <title type="html">Front Battery Rack Template Takes Shape</title>
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<p>There is room for another row of cells in front of the two shown, but this row will have to be slightly lower since the front of the car curves down. There is enough height in the middle to put cells above the motor where it protrudes through the plywood, higher than the rest.</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/137-Moving-the-Inverter.html" rel="alternate" title="Moving the Inverter" />
        <author>
            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-02-22T09:39:43Z</published>
        <updated>2011-02-22T09:47:36Z</updated>
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        <id>http://carrott.org/blog/archives/137-guid.html</id>
        <title type="html">Moving the Inverter</title>
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                <!-- s9ymdb:229 --><img class="serendipity_image_center" width="600" height="399"  src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/2011/inverter-and-charger-in-boot.jpg"  alt="Siemens Simovert Short and Manzanita Micro PFC-30 in the boot" />

<p>It seems improved Weight distribution can be had by putting the inverter in the boot and most of the battery in the front. This does introduce longer motor cable runs which will reduce efficiency but it is looking worth it -- with the inverter up front there isn't much room for cells and it's 70kg lighter on the front axle than when I started. I'll be mocking up the front to see exactly how many cells fit without the inverter before I commit to this move.</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/136-Smaller-Contactors.html" rel="alternate" title="Smaller Contactors" />
        <author>
            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-02-14T09:33:33Z</published>
        <updated>2011-02-14T10:08:21Z</updated>
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            <category scheme="http://carrott.org/blog/categories/1-Electric" label="Electric" term="Electric" />
    
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                <!-- s9ymdb:228 --><img class="serendipity_image_center" width="600" height="399"  src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/2011/gx14-contactors.jpg"  alt="Gigavac GX14 Contactors and Siemens precharge circuit" />

<p>The contactors supplied with my Siemens electric drive system were large <a href="http://www.hertfordcontrols.co.uk/prores7244/c152--c162-series-contactors.aspx">Schaltbau C160</a> series contactors with arc chutes and blowout magnets in an even larger box. This was quite inconvenient in the mini as the only place they would was in the boot. I'm planning on putting at least some cells in the front of the car, which would require some clever packaging to get the contactors to at the front. So I replaced them with two <a href="http://www.gigavac.com/products/contactors/datasheets/gx14/index.htm">Gigavac GX14</a> sealed contactors. At the moment I've mounted them on a plastic base in same place the old contactor box lived. When I'm done, they will likely be split up, I'm expecting one in the boot at the negative end of the battery and and one at the front of the car at the positive end.</p>

<p>In the foreground you can see the precharge circuit, two small relays and 8 PTC resistors allow the controller's capacitors to charge in an orderly fashion before the main contactors close. If this isn't done the capacitors charge very suddenly. This huge inrush current is hard on the capacitors, battery and contactors. Such situations may even cause the contactors to weld closed. You can see this inrush on a small scale when you plug your laptop or cell phone charger into the mains. Sometimes there is a pop and (in a darkened room) quite a large flash as the circuit connects (it only happens sometimes because the AC might be in a low voltage part of the cycle when you connect, or it might be at a high voltage). Check out the ends of the pins, you'll see pitting and scorch marks on most laptop power cords. Charging an electric vehicle's capacitors involves perhaps 100 to 1000 times more energy than a laptop so there is a soft start circuit to avoid the bang and the flash.</p>

<p>I left the wires long and curly because I'll be moving the contactors. When they're in their final location, I'll cut the wires just right. Unless I keep them curly (never underestimate the aesthetics of curly wires).</p>

<p>I'll post a side-by-side comparison of the contactors some time. The GX14 appears to be safer in an accident.</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/135-Vice-Brake-will-break-your-vice.html" rel="alternate" title="Vice Brake will break your vice" />
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            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2011-01-18T07:52:29Z</published>
        <updated>2011-01-18T19:23:20Z</updated>
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                <p><!-- s9ymdb:224 --><img class="serendipity_image_center" width="600" height="322"  src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/2011/vicebrake-vice.jpg"  alt="Vice Brake installed in Vice" />
<br/>
I don't have enough room for a proper <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_brake">press brake</a>, and it seems that a <a href="http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_21896_21896">shop press brake adapter</a> for my shop press isn't available in New Zealand, but what I have found, is a good way to break your vice. The <a href="https://www.machineryhouse.co.nz/Products?stockCode=V052">Vice Brake</a> is sold as being capable of bending 2mm mild steel, and while this might be true for small pieces, you vice will struggle to do a long bend in 2mm.</p>

<p><!-- s9ymdb:225 --><img class="serendipity_image_center" width="600" height="399"  src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/2011/vicebrake-press.jpg"  alt="Vice Brake in shop press" />
<br />
Enter the vice brake shop press. This works surprisingly well, with the vice brake seemingly very stable and not at all threatening to explode out the side.</p>

<p><!-- s9ymdb:227 --><img class="serendipity_image_center" width="418" height="600"  src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/2011/vicebrake-bad.jpg"  alt="Damaged end of the pointly Vice Brake die" />
<br />
Of course, even a small 10 tonne shop press is much more powerful than a vice. I used the back, less visible, end of the die to bend a small piece of steel and didn't supervice it sufficiently. This damaged the die, but it still copes with bending 3mm steel.
</p>

<p><!-- s9ymdb:226 --><img class="serendipity_image_center" width="600" height="643"  src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/2011/vicebrake-good.jpg"  alt="Good end of the pointy Vice Brake die" />
<br />
The other end of the die is undamaged.
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/134-BMS-Update.html" rel="alternate" title="BMS Update" />
        <author>
            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2010-11-19T05:17:00Z</published>
        <updated>2010-11-19T05:17:00Z</updated>
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                <p>I've been fairly quiet recently, mostly because I fell off the blog wagon after going to Samoa on an <a href="http://laptop.org">olpc</a> jaunt (see <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Samoa#Volunteer_visit_to_Samoa_deployments_conducted_August_2010">our report</a> for details).</p>

<p>I have been making slow progress on the EVD5 BMS. I fixed no less than 5 bad joints in my backplane arrangement (I specified the wrong size hole and ended up drilling them bigger and soldering the top and bottom, but not so well) and have the BMS behaving well on my 36 cell battery.</p>

<p>I haven't implemented the necessary code to deal with voltage drop in the wires while shunting because I'm going to get rid of the wires. The wires are a disaster from a safety and construction point of view. Constructing the wires out of ribbon cable with soldered in fuses takes a very long time and I've already had to replace two blown ones (don't know the cause). My earlier backplane design packs too many boards too close together and makes me nervous.</p>

<p>Removing the scary difficult wire while keeping the 5 cell EVD5 BMS is possible, if you make a backplane like Tritium's <a href="http://www.tritium.com.au/products/TRI67/index.html">IQCell</a> system. The squiggly bits in the circuit board will allow the cells to move as the car jiggles down the road. The problem with this is that the EVD5 has an awful lot of wires to each cell -- temperature, sense, shunt+ and shunt- and I'm having trouble getting them all through the squiggles. It's worse if I want to mount the shunt transistors away from the main EVD5 board. You'll note that Tritium's hardware is a lot simpler than the EVD5, this comes from more R&D, when Bob designed the hardware (in 2007!) it was much less clear what was needed, so he designed it to be very flexible.</p>

<p>Its fair to say that the EVD5 isn't really suitable for prismatic cells and while this is true, it isn't a really a fair criticism as it was never designed for this purpose. It was designed for Bob's particular cylindrical cell construction.</p>

<p>I've put together a schematic with only 3 wires to each cell and none of them carrying current by putting the shunt transistor at the cell and only passing it's gate back to the central EVD5 board. To control current, I abandon the current sensing system in the EVD5 and add a series resistor. I haven't yet done the layout and seen if this works better -- thinner and one fewer wires isn't all that compelling.</p>

<p>If you've been watching the commit log, you'll see I've made a fair amount of progress with the software, with a bunch of small improvements to the laptop based monitor and better use of the LEDs on the EVD5 board.</p>

<p>I also found another hardware bug, the reset line on U10, the 555 timer in the RS485 section is floating. This is a FET based part and it doesn't take very many electrons to reset the timer and stop communications. With this line tied high, I don't have problems with the software addressing any more.</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/133-RS485-Tantrum.html" rel="alternate" title="RS485 Tantrum" />
        <author>
            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2010-05-01T00:01:35Z</published>
        <updated>2010-05-03T09:02:56Z</updated>
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                <p>Not as serious as a <a href="http://blog.reprap.org/2010/03/our-extruders-hardly-ever-catch-fire.html">reprap tantrum</a>, my RS485 bus is not behaving very well. If I terminate it properly, it doesn't work at all, and if I don't terminate it at all, then it works, but charging at more than 10A causes a lot of extra characters to appear. Termination has two functions, first, it absorbs the energy in each character as it hits the end of the bus. Without terminators the pulses bounce off the end of the bus and travel back the way they came, causing interference. The second function of the terminators is to hold the bus in a relatively low impedance state, so any stray energy (say that created by the electric and magnetic fields generated by the charger) that gets onto the bus is absorbed without causing spurious characters.</p>

<p>Without terminators, I'm seeing extra characters, but with a 2 metre bus, I don't have problems with reflections.</p>

<p>So why doesn't it work <em>with</em> terminators? It turns out the transmit enable circuit cannot predict the future. With no cells transmitting, the bus floats, and both wires sit at 0 volts. When a cell enables it's transmitter, one wire rises to about 4V and the other to about 1V. This is how the bus should look when we send 0xFF:<br/>
<!-- s9ymdb:219 --><img width="600" height="479" style="border: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;" src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/hardware-addressing.jpg" alt="0x55 with hardware software addressing" />
<br/>
And here is how it looks when the EVD5 sends 0x55:<br/>
<!-- s9ymdb:220 --><img width="600" height="480" style="border: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;" src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/software-addressing.jpg" alt="0x55 with software addressing" />
<br/>
Note the difference in the first transition, the the inverting line should go from high to low, but it goes from 0 to low. This is because the transmitter is enabled during the start bit, rather than a sensible time before the start bit.</p>

<p>I tried enabling the bus with a very short pulse (arrowed) before sending a character (note inverting is on the bottom trace instead of the top like above):<br />
<!-- s9ymdb:223 --><img width="600" height="482" style="border: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;" src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/software-addressing-start-pulse.jpg" alt="0x55 with software addressing and start pulse" />
<br />This almost worked, but I couldn't avoid framing errors -- the receiver sees the pulse and gets confused. I need to wait long enough for the receiver to assume the start pulse was not the start bit of some random character, but the transmit enable circuit times out and disables the bus before this happens.</p>

<p>There are two possible solutions, <a href="http://www.best-microcontroller-projects.com/transmission-line.html">capacitive termination</a>, and increasing the baud rate. More on this later.</p>  
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        <link href="http://carrott.org/blog/archives/132-Sydney.html" rel="alternate" title="Sydney" />
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            <name>carrott</name>
            <email>tom@carrott.org</email>        </author>
    
        <published>2010-03-30T05:57:45Z</published>
        <updated>2010-04-16T08:42:39Z</updated>
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                <p>Recently I visited Sydney and met up with some of the local EV community.</p>

<p>I saw Nathan's workshop at <a href="http://www.converturcar.com.au/">Convert UR Car</a> and he was kind enough to show me a Toyota Yaris conversion in progress and even let me drive <a href="http://www.converturcar.com.au/archives/category/projects/sparky">Sparky</a>, his lead acid powered '92 Hyundai Excel. I can now say I've handled a germanium transistor, as he had to replace part of the control for his army surplus generator.<p>

<p>I also met up with Anthony Wood (who helped assemble my Mini in January) and Michael Day (who's converting an MR2 with an MES-DEA motor) for lunch and had a ride in his Anthony's (yet to be converted) Cortina.</p>

<p>Jaron Ware &amp; Mark Taylor showed me their Formula V race car which was converted to electric some time ago. When I turned up they were installing an open source DC motor controller, a variation of <a href="http://ecomodder.com/forum/open-revolt-open-source-dc-motor-controller.html">Paul &amp; Sabrina's design</a>.
<br />
<!-- s9ymdb:217 --><img width="600" height="399" style="border: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;" src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/open-source-dc-controller.jpg" alt="Open Source DC motor controller derived from Paul &amp; Sabrina's design" />
<a class='serendipity_image_link' href='http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/open-source-dc-controller-2.jpg'><!-- s9ymdb:218 --><img width="110" height="84" style="border: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;" src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/open-source-dc-controller-2.serendipityThumb.jpg" alt="Open Source DC motor controller derived from Paul &amp; Sabrina's design" /></a>
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<p>Mark also had a <em>very</em> tidy flooded electric van conversion:
<br />
<!-- s9ymdb:214 --><img width="600" height="399" style="border: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px;" src="http://carrott.org/blog/uploads/mark-taylor-van-battery.jpg" alt="" />
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<p>Jaron told me stories about his trip to Lake Gardener to crew for the <a href="http://www.evmotorcycle.org/home/node/53">Catavolt</a> team. Kearon de Clouet did 177kph on a Modified Partial Streamlined Electric Motorcycle for a new world record. Besides getting the record, they learnt a lot on this trip, it turns out you should transport your gear 2000km in a covered trailer, especially when the last half day is on a dirt road and it's raining. The dirt was especially prepared by the Australian climate to get into everything. Also, you should get a big trailer and make a mobile workshop, so you can charge and perform maintenance while waiting in the queue for the next run -- you spend most of the day queuing and a mobile workshop would let them get more runs.</p>  
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